300B SE Amp: 46 Driver (Part II)

The 300B amplifier journey continues as planned. A bit lower than expected, however small steps being made. Recently I mentioned about the 46 driver.

I made some progress on the LL7903 step-up transformer which is wired on 1:8.

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300B SE Amp: 46 Driver (Part I)

And time arrived to start experimenting with the different drivers. Why? Well, the whole point of the latest modular design is that I can easily (I hope) make quick changes and experiment.

The D3a driver board can be replaced with a new one. In fact I will be building a pair of stacked boards (which are in essence ground planes) to hold the SUT as well as a pentode screen bias regulator and the driver board.

First incarnation will be on the 46 DHT. However, drilled the board to fit either loctal (e.g. 4P1L, C3g, etc.) as well as noval for other 9-pin drivers I have in mind.

46 driver in progress

The build process is fast. I have the ground plane PCBs, which I drill (M3) to fit multiple plastic hex standoff to hold either PCBs or different turret/2mm connectors to plug in/out the board as needed. This LEGO-like approach is amazing, very happy with the flexibility and speed of work I can get with this.

Stay tuned.

300b driver experiments

I’ve been enjoying and carefully listening my new 300B amplifier. I have to say that I love every bit of its sound, treble detail and strong bass. The amplifier is fast and can drive very well my speakers. I only discovered that due to my low level DAC, the gain of the D3a in triode is yet not enough to get it to maximum power. So, I hooked in my beloved 01a preamp. The overall gain is too much of course so had to place the volume control at the output of the 01a stage.

I think a gain of about 130-140 should be ok. Perhaps if I get around in adding the 6SF5 stage then it may be good enough.

So this got me thinking. Of course I have on my list 2 driver tests:

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300B SE Amp – here we go

A Brave New World

Surely you’re as tired as I’m with COVID-19. One of the best things I can do to distract my mind is to keep myself away from social media. Every stone you turn, there is COVID or a statement about it. I won’t moan as I have a job for now and a healthy family. Some members of my family were infected but nothing major. I can only say is that the world has change. And so my day to day life looking after the young family whilst working is a real challenge. Starting my fifth week of lockdown, I have to distract somehow my mind at times, otherwise will go mad.

A New Concept

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814 SE Amp: upgrading the gyrator loads

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The upgrade made to the 814 SE was quite simple, I replaced the gyrator carbon 4M7 for a Holco one and the mu resistor for a Mills 820R MRA05 5W. The capacitor was finally reduced from the outrageous 1uF Mundorf Mcap EVO Oil Gold to an 220nF 450Vdc Mundorf Mcap EVO Silver Oil.

The main change was the capacitor and proved to have no loss impact on the bass. I have recently made the OT change so cannot comment on the overall impact in the sound of these changes. I can say at this stage that I cannot notice any big change. It sounds as good as before!

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I’d have expected a noticeable change by reducing the size of the cap, but in this case I didn’t.

4-65a SE Amp: testing it finally!

The much-awaited moment finally arrived. After yesterday’s driver tests, I did a lot of work this morning to assemble cables and test the output stage. What I clearly know now is that I won’t be needing any heating this winter! What on earth was on my mind when I decided to build this amp? God only knows…

Here are some pictures of the first tests in the workshop and then when I hooked it up to my system downstairs in the sitting room:

I did a quick measurement of the output THD without burning in the 4-65a or the amp. The operating point is not optimised but clearly shows a nice picture. First of all, the amp is absolutely quiet. The Rod Coleman regulators plus the extensive filtering on all supplies (LCLC and CLCLC) make this the quietest amp I’ve ever made! The distortion is higher than predicted. With the valves at 100mA/540V and with a non-inductive resistor load of 10Ω, the THD is about 2.7% for nearly 6W of pure class A power. Only 4% of the harmonic content is H3 and with a nice H2 component. The footprint of an SE amp is clearly on this amp.

4-65a SE Power test 5.6W test1

Hooked it downstairs and after a lot of wiring I finally got to play some good records on this amp. I used my 26 DHT preamp. First record to be played was “a love supreme” (John Coltrane). Here are my impressions so far:

  • I’m surprised with the bass. It is powerful and not something I was used to in a single ended amp
  • Definitely needs some burn-in time. The amp improved after 1 hour of use
  • It’s loud! You can get 10W easily in class A2. Very loud for my room!
  • The tone is warm and very sweet. you get the sound of the DHT clearly
  • Dynamics are its forte. This amp responds very well to them

Some more pictures:

Now is time for proper listening after so much work. A real accomplishment and I’m feeling very proud. The amp fits within my cabinet so wife is happy 🙂

 

4-65a SE Amp: first driver test

20130810-172222.jpgAfter completing the last power supply, I finally did some real tests on the 4-65A SE amplifier. Given the DC coupled design it is a bit tricky to do the initial calibration. I had to set the operating point of both 46 DHTs by adjusting the anode voltage through the individual gyrator load presets. Also had to balance at the same time the Salas Shunt current and output voltage to the desired levels. After playing a while with it I managed to stabilise the Salas shunt regulator.

Set the 46 to drive the output stage to 200Vpp with a 3.7Vpp  (1.33Vrms) input. That is a gain of approximately 54. Here is the distortion profile:

46 driver test1 200vppBreadboard is really quiet with the 50 and 100Hz noise below -95dB. It’s great to see the nice 46 Super Silvertone performing only 0.09% at 200V peak to peak!

Results are promising, just need final tweaks to 600V supply and then hook the 4-65a!

Ale

 

4-65a SE Amp: 46 filament supply tested

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Finished the second channel and tested the filament supply. The filament array which is formed by two paralleled pairs of 20W 10Ω wirewound resistors gets hot as expected. The array temperature is about 110-126°C at an ambient temperature of 24°C. The anode of the 46 gets to 49°C after 20 min of use and the heatsink stays at 42°C whereas the regulator TO-220 transistors are about 45°C. There is about  30W dissipated on each array. Yes I know, a lot of power but the filament bias is hard to beat in terms of sound in my view.

4-65a SE Amp building process

Some drilling and mounting work done this morning on the 4-65a SE amp breadboard:

During the afternoon, I managed to wire a filament supply for one channel 46 driver. Tested and working ok, now can move to the next one:

a C3g driver…

Sunday morning and my brain already started with a lot of activity early today. Should be the other way round. I spent all week working and weekends should be about relaxation, but can’t help it 🙂 Before going up to the workshop and continue with the 4-65a SE amplifier build, I put into work some of these ideas that are flying around.

The 46 filament bias driver with its hefty supply will be “the driver” for the 4-65a, yes, no doubt. I may want to try some other combinations such as 4P1L pentode in filament bias, or why not some other drivers as 6e5p, C3g and D3a. All these are brilliant candidates. But final judge should be my ears. We all know that what looks really good in paper not necessarily translates into a great sounding driver, but at least is the best start.

C3g driver with gyratorC3g (as well as D3a) a really linear and revered valves in triode mode. Huge gain, current capability and transconductance. Perfectly engineered valves. C3g can easily provide a great performance as a driver with a gyrator load. I found playing around that with a simple LED bias, a bias of -2V, 190V and 30mA provides an outstanding 0.15% @ 200Vpp at least on the simulations..

I may try this in my 4P1L/6C4C project as well…. (so much to do)

Ale

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Hi Ale,
A few observations.
190V with 31mA provide dissipation of 5.9 W !! It is excessive.
Use Telefunken data. Pa max is 3,5W.
Also, look data : “G2 and G3 connected to A

Just as a long-time user C3g as driver :-)

Rajko

You’re right, interesting oversight which reflects that I shouldn’t be doing this early on a Sunday morning! Looking at the datasheet, we could get out 4.9W maximum if using Pa=3.5W + Pg2=0.7W + Pg3=0.7W. Well, a bit too much, perhaps safer running it below 4.5W.

So let’s see how it performs if we dial down the anode current. I ended up changing the LED to minimise distortion:
C3g driver gyrator load

The THD is 0.26%@ 200Vpp which is similar to my two stage 4P1L-46. I wonder how much distortion the 4P1L will give at 200Vpp?