6e6p-dr HP amp – part 2

My adventure with the HT SMPS modules continued. Did further testing with higher power modules which worked ok.

Testing the HP amp

The headphone stage (HP) has a 1MHz bandwidth, impressive. Here is the circuit breadboarded after the modification of the 2P29L HP amp:

6e6P-DR HP Amp

The cap multiplier isn’t mandatory as the gyrator PCB has a high PSR so a good well-filtered HT supply will work. I added the cap-multiplier for 2 reasons. I have the PCBs made and also I was looking to improve the supply noise of the SMPS modules. My intension was to power this up with an LT supply module I have based out of 2 variable SMPSs.

The Chinese 40W HT SMPS modules that can do 450V work fine. They need a good HF filter as well as a proper LC stage to decouple and filter the ripple to make it absolutely dead quiet.

Here is the variable HT supply I build some time ago which I use for multiple circuits:

The variable HT supply made out of HT SMPS modules

With this stage I have the choice of swapping the output caps. Either a massive (aka expensive) Mundorf EVO Oil 100uF/350V for direct coupling of the 300R headphones, or via the Sowter HP output transformer with a smaller cap.

I personally prefer the OT coupling in this circuit, but both sound extremely well.

More work and measurements to follow.

Author: Ale Moglia

"A mistake is always forgivable, rarely excusable and always unacceptable. " (Robert Fripp)

12 thoughts on “6e6p-dr HP amp – part 2”

  1. Hi Ale, Don’t talk about the rugby!
    Did you ever do a production run of your cap multiplier board?
    cheers
    tim

    1. Yes, no rugby talk then!
      Not yet, I need to find the time to do so. I’ve been tweaking the board a bit but think it’s on its final level now. I may add an HT indicator (e.g. Neon bulb like the INS-1 as I have plenty of them)
      Will let you know when I run a production batch. I have quite a few other PCBs which I developed and are being very useful at this stage:
      1. HT supply board – flexible use of hybrid rectifier (e.g. SiC diodes and damper valves) as well as chokes
      2. LT supply board for DHT – with external chokes and on board CMR choke
      3. Fixed bias circuit for grids with on-board trimpots (or external pots) and grid coupling circuit. It relies on Rod Coleman’s fixed regulator or any other fixed bias regulator
      4. Fixed bias protection circuit and anode/cathode current meter. This is the one I used on this headphone amplifier. Only because I had the prototype PCBs available!

      Cheers
      Ale

        1. HI Tim,
          I’ve never tried the ST901T but seems like a very good option up to 350V. It has higher gain than the MOSFETs so should perform better. Will need to buy a few and trace them first. I think I could modify the PCB to cater for a darlington based BJT pass device instead of the MOSFET. For higher voltages, the MOSFET is cheaper and better suited
          Ale

  2. Dear Ale, always happy to read your posts, very informative ! A question about the PSU filter : what EMI filters did you use to put 450V DC in ? Anything standard ? Or self built ? A part # would be very appreciated !
    Kind regards, Charles

  3. Now am listening to the cap-couple setup. The Mundorf EVO Oil are very good caps. The sound is very detailed, the dynamics are there and the overall frequency response is superb.
    The 6e6p-DR are running at 22mA. I have jumpers across the array of 6 SiC bias diodes in the PCB. Easy to change as needed depending on the bias requirements.
    When I get the time I will match a few pairs with the eTracer. Russian valves are famous for having their parameters all over the place. I found a large stash of 6e6p and 6e5p in my storage, however I can’t locate the golden pin 6e6p-DR stash, argh! I’m playing with just a pair I had at hand. This is what happens when you move places twice and packed your workshop. I don’t know where half of my stuff is now.
    You can hear the “dings” when the valves warm up, it take a few minutes and after that it’s all good. The stage is dead quiet. Despite I could see some HF noise due to the filaments being fed by an unfiltered SMPS Meanwell variable module. I do this because is an IHT, not a DHT. You can’t get the DHT working with the SMPS in this application. It’s very hard to get the noise that low. At least, I failed after a few attempts. Do-able with the 2P29L as is low current and you can easily build a good CLC filter to get rid of the noise over 10kHz.
    I need to take this back to the bench and do a proper FFT to see where the harmonics and noise are. Either way I can say that I like very much what I hear, the amp is dead quiet. I’m not getting listening fatigue.

    A 32R headphone will need the step down transformer in parafeed mode for sure. The hybrid mu-follower will have too much distortion with it and will struggle to supply the current needed getting into slew rate distortion.

    If you want to build this, please go ahead. A great HP amplifier to enjoy. I’d recommend to go with a normal PS supply, not SMPS. Not worth the hassle in my view. I did because I had the PS already built for my experiments.

  4. Hi Ale,
    I have no experience with 6E6 (or 6E5) tube, to my shame. I’m not moving from german postal tubes yet 🙂
    Seriously, many 6E tube users say 6E5 is a “better sounding” tube than 6E6.
    Definitely, your opinion is … ???

    1. Hi Rajko,
      It’s been a long time since I’ve used the 6e5p as switched to the 6e6p given pinout being similar to D3a, etc. 6e5p has an odd pinout. I will need to re-wire the socket to plug in the 6e5p and compare. That will have to wait so I could do a proper AB comparison. My previous experience with the 6e5p was very good as well and can’t recall any materia difference I can call out am afraid.
      I will likely test D3a, E280F, E810F and similar triode-strapped pentodes before making any changes to the HP amp
      Thanks for the suggestion!
      Ale

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