{"id":7722,"date":"2019-02-03T11:15:52","date_gmt":"2019-02-03T11:15:52","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/?p=7722"},"modified":"2019-04-13T11:41:38","modified_gmt":"2019-04-13T10:41:38","slug":"hybrid-mu-follower-aka-gyrator-rev08-pcb-update","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/2019\/02\/03\/hybrid-mu-follower-aka-gyrator-rev08-pcb-update\/","title":{"rendered":"Hybrid Mu-follower (aka Gyrator) Rev08 PCB Update"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>It&#8217;s been far too long since I last posted on this blog. With the limited spare time I&#8217;ve got these days, I concentrated in setting up the new workshop and system since we moved back to our place. I&#8217;m nearly there, so now it&#8217;s time to get back to work<\/p>\n<p>I made some updates to the &#8220;gyrator&#8221; PCB. I&#8217;ll stop referencing it gyrator from now on, since the name is misleading. However, it got popular that way. Nevertheless, it&#8217;s a hybrid mu-follower circuit but if only if you take the output from the anode, it behaves like a &#8220;gyrator&#8221; from a frequency response perspective. If you&#8217;re interested in this circuit in more detail, please read the lecture I gave last year at ETF.18. You can download it from <a href=\"http:\/\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/2018\/12\/01\/etf-18-dht-preamps-lecture\/\">here<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Back to the board, here are the few changes made:<\/p>\n<ol>\n<li>Moved the trimpot P1 for easier fixing of the board with the M3 standoffs.<\/li>\n<li>Added a gate stopper resistor (R9) to avoid oscillation at low anode current (&lt;10mA) when using high-gm MOSFETs in the lower position J4. This was evident with devices like BSH111BNK<\/li>\n<li>Added an LED (D4) indicator and a series resistor (R8) at the drain of M3. This enables indication of:\n<ol>\n<li>Normal operation subject to \u00a0value of R8<\/li>\n<li>Source current into load (e.g. like in A2 operation) subject to value of R8.<\/li>\n<li>Short output to ground. Depending on duration and current limitation of power supply, this may prevent damaging M3 MOSFET. Not guaranteed, but in some scenarios will work.<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<p>Here is the circuit diagram for reference:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/Gyrator-PCB-Rev08-1.jpg\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"7852\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/2019\/02\/03\/hybrid-mu-follower-aka-gyrator-rev08-pcb-update\/gyrator-pcb-rev08-2\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/Gyrator-PCB-Rev08-1.jpg?fit=1214%2C1230&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"1214,1230\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;Ale&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;1555154301&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"Gyrator PCB Rev08\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/Gyrator-PCB-Rev08-1.jpg?fit=840%2C851&amp;ssl=1\" class=\"size-large wp-image-7852 aligncenter\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/Gyrator-PCB-Rev08-1-1011x1024.jpg?resize=840%2C851\" alt=\"\" width=\"840\" height=\"851\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/Gyrator-PCB-Rev08-1.jpg?resize=1011%2C1024&amp;ssl=1 1011w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/Gyrator-PCB-Rev08-1.jpg?resize=296%2C300&amp;ssl=1 296w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/Gyrator-PCB-Rev08-1.jpg?resize=768%2C778&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/Gyrator-PCB-Rev08-1.jpg?resize=1200%2C1216&amp;ssl=1 1200w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/Gyrator-PCB-Rev08-1.jpg?w=1214&amp;ssl=1 1214w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 709px) 85vw, (max-width: 909px) 67vw, (max-width: 1362px) 62vw, 840px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Of course you can continue using jFETs in the board. However, I found that the BSH111BK\/BSN20BK and other high-gm perform really well in this circuit. They are still plenty and available out there, not like the BF862. Unfortunately this one is EOL (see lecture for replacement options).<\/p>\n<p>Here is a sample test of the 01a preamp stage with this new board:<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_7724\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-7724\" style=\"width: 840px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/REv08-01a-test1.png\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"7724\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/2019\/02\/03\/hybrid-mu-follower-aka-gyrator-rev08-pcb-update\/rev08-01a-test1\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/REv08-01a-test1.png?fit=1053%2C639&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"1053,639\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"REv08-01a-test1\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"&lt;p&gt;REv08 PCB board tested with the 01a preamp.&lt;\/p&gt;\n\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/REv08-01a-test1.png?fit=840%2C509&amp;ssl=1\" class=\"size-large wp-image-7724\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/REv08-01a-test1-1024x621.png?resize=840%2C509\" alt=\"\" width=\"840\" height=\"509\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/REv08-01a-test1.png?resize=1024%2C621&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/REv08-01a-test1.png?resize=300%2C182&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/REv08-01a-test1.png?resize=768%2C466&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/REv08-01a-test1.png?w=1053&amp;ssl=1 1053w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 709px) 85vw, (max-width: 909px) 67vw, (max-width: 1362px) 62vw, 840px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-7724\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">REv08 PCB board tested with the 01a preamp.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>In this case with the use of an IXTP3N100D2 and BSH111BK operating at 3-4mA the frequency response is flat to nearly 380kHz. Same combination of FETs in a Rev07 board will oscillate at LF due to the lack of gate stopper.<\/p>\n<p>With a Rev07 IXTP08N100D and BF862 board, the response only gets up to 150-180kHz depending on the valve. This is not a limitation whatsoever in audio band, let&#8217;s make this point clear.<\/p>\n<p>A snapshot of a completed board:<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_7725\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-7725\" style=\"width: 840px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/IMG_1954.jpg\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"7725\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/2019\/02\/03\/hybrid-mu-follower-aka-gyrator-rev08-pcb-update\/img_1954\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/IMG_1954.jpg?fit=2707%2C2435&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"2707,2435\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;1.8&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;iPhone 8&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;1549190881&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;3.99&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;40&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0.0083333333333333&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"IMG_1954\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"&lt;p&gt;Rev08 PCB completed&lt;\/p&gt;\n\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/IMG_1954.jpg?fit=840%2C756&amp;ssl=1\" class=\"size-large wp-image-7725\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/IMG_1954-1024x921.jpg?resize=840%2C756\" alt=\"\" width=\"840\" height=\"756\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/IMG_1954.jpg?resize=1024%2C921&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/IMG_1954.jpg?resize=300%2C270&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/IMG_1954.jpg?resize=768%2C691&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/IMG_1954.jpg?resize=1200%2C1079&amp;ssl=1 1200w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/IMG_1954.jpg?w=1680&amp;ssl=1 1680w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/IMG_1954.jpg?w=2520&amp;ssl=1 2520w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 709px) 85vw, (max-width: 909px) 67vw, (max-width: 1362px) 62vw, 840px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-7725\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Rev08 PCB completed<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>in the following picture you will see the three new components added so you can compare to the previous Rev07 version. Also note that this is a prototype version so it doesn&#8217;t have an ENIG Gold board finish:<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_7726\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-7726\" style=\"width: 840px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/IMG_1947.jpg\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"7726\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/2019\/02\/03\/hybrid-mu-follower-aka-gyrator-rev08-pcb-update\/img_1947\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/IMG_1947.jpg?fit=2700%2C2619&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"2700,2619\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;1.8&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;iPhone 8&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;1549112522&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;3.99&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;64&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0.0083333333333333&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"IMG_1947\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"&lt;p&gt;Rev 08 PCB: the new components added to the circuit&lt;\/p&gt;\n\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/IMG_1947.jpg?fit=840%2C815&amp;ssl=1\" class=\"size-large wp-image-7726\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/IMG_1947-1024x993.jpg?resize=840%2C815\" alt=\"\" width=\"840\" height=\"815\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/IMG_1947.jpg?resize=1024%2C993&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/IMG_1947.jpg?resize=300%2C291&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/IMG_1947.jpg?resize=768%2C745&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/IMG_1947.jpg?resize=1200%2C1164&amp;ssl=1 1200w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/IMG_1947.jpg?w=1680&amp;ssl=1 1680w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/IMG_1947.jpg?w=2520&amp;ssl=1 2520w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 709px) 85vw, (max-width: 909px) 67vw, (max-width: 1362px) 62vw, 840px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-7726\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Rev 08 PCB: the new components added to the circuit<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>The new boards were tested on my 01a preamp. They sound amazing, as good as the previous ones. Interestingly enough, I made a mistake during breadboarding and the LED turn on really brightly with 100mA shunted through the output. The FETs survived this time thanks to the limiting resistor and the current protection I have on my bench power supply.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>It&#8217;s been far too long since I last posted on this blog. With the limited spare time I&#8217;ve got these days, I concentrated in setting up the new workshop and system since we moved back to our place. I&#8217;m nearly there, so now it&#8217;s time to get back to work I made some updates to &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/2019\/02\/03\/hybrid-mu-follower-aka-gyrator-rev08-pcb-update\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;Hybrid Mu-follower (aka Gyrator) Rev08 PCB Update&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":true,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2},"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false},"categories":[911],"tags":[864,1195,982,1189,1190,875,1194,652,1196,1193],"class_list":["post-7722","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-gyrator-pcb","tag-bartola-gyrator","tag-bartola-hybrid-mu-follower","tag-bsh111bk","tag-etf","tag-etf-18","tag-gyrator-pcb","tag-gyrator-rev08","tag-hybrid-mu-follower","tag-ixtp3n100d2","tag-rev08"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/p2r2tK-20y","jetpack_likes_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/7722","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=7722"}],"version-history":[{"count":2,"href":"https:\/\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/7722\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":7853,"href":"https:\/\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/7722\/revisions\/7853"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=7722"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=7722"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=7722"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}