{"id":6515,"date":"2017-06-23T21:23:06","date_gmt":"2017-06-23T20:23:06","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/?p=6515"},"modified":"2017-07-08T07:53:33","modified_gmt":"2017-07-08T06:53:33","slug":"2%d0%b627%d0%bb-2z27l-dht-preamp","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/2017\/06\/23\/2%d0%b627%d0%bb-2z27l-dht-preamp\/","title":{"rendered":"2\u041627\u041b \/ 2Z27L DHT Preamp"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Back in <a href=\"http:\/\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/2012\/12\/19\/2%d0%b627%d0%bb-2sh27l-2z27l\/\">2012<\/a> I did some experiments with <a href=\"http:\/\/www.mif.pg.gda.pl\/homepages\/frank\/short\/054\/1\/147.pdf\">this<\/a> Russian valve. &nbsp;The&nbsp;2\u041627\u041b \/ 2Z27L is a fantastic valve. I discovered that if I run it hot, it&#8217;s extremely linear and non-microphonic. Bingo! With its highish&nbsp;\u03bc of about 16, it&#8217;s ideal as preamp stage or driver.&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><!--more-->Here is my implementation for an DHT preamp (as usual with the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/for-sale\/gyrator-pcb\/\">gyrator<\/a> load):<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/06\/2Z27L-preamp.jpg\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"6516\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/2017\/06\/23\/2%d0%b627%d0%bb-2z27l-dht-preamp\/2z27l-preamp\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/06\/2Z27L-preamp.jpg?fit=1504%2C1461&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"1504,1461\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;Ale&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;1498251611&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"2Z27L preamp\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/06\/2Z27L-preamp.jpg?fit=840%2C816&amp;ssl=1\" class=\"size-large wp-image-6516 aligncenter\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/06\/2Z27L-preamp-1024x995.jpg?resize=525%2C510\" alt=\"\" width=\"525\" height=\"510\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/06\/2Z27L-preamp.jpg?resize=1024%2C995&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/06\/2Z27L-preamp.jpg?resize=300%2C291&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/06\/2Z27L-preamp.jpg?resize=768%2C746&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/06\/2Z27L-preamp.jpg?w=1504&amp;ssl=1 1504w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 525px) 85vw, 525px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>This is very similar to the 2P29L which is described <a href=\"http:\/\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/2017\/05\/20\/2p29l-dht-preamp\/\">here<\/a>. You only need to change a resistor on the Rod Coleman regulators and you&#8217;re done. It took me 15min to do the upgrade, I wish a mod in a preamp could be done every time like this. The loctal pinout is the same. The anode voltage is reduced to about 116-120V to push the valve to the maximum cathode current which is about 4mA.&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>The result is great, check out the distortion profile:<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_6517\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-6517\" style=\"width: 525px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/06\/2J27L-THD-Vo2Vrms.png\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"6517\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/2017\/06\/23\/2%d0%b627%d0%bb-2z27l-dht-preamp\/2j27l-thd-vo2vrms\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/06\/2J27L-THD-Vo2Vrms.png?fit=1153%2C326&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"1153,326\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"2J27L THD Vo2Vrms\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"&lt;p&gt;2\u041627\u041b \/ 2Z27L THD @ 2Vrms output&lt;\/p&gt;\n\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/06\/2J27L-THD-Vo2Vrms.png?fit=840%2C238&amp;ssl=1\" class=\"size-large wp-image-6517\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/06\/2J27L-THD-Vo2Vrms-1024x290.png?resize=525%2C149\" alt=\"\" width=\"525\" height=\"149\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/06\/2J27L-THD-Vo2Vrms.png?resize=1024%2C290&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/06\/2J27L-THD-Vo2Vrms.png?resize=300%2C85&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/06\/2J27L-THD-Vo2Vrms.png?resize=768%2C217&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/06\/2J27L-THD-Vo2Vrms.png?w=1153&amp;ssl=1 1153w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 525px) 85vw, 525px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-6517\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">2\u041627\u041b \/ 2Z27L THD @ 2Vrms output<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<figure id=\"attachment_6518\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-6518\" style=\"width: 525px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/06\/2J27L-THD-Vo-5Vrms.png\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"6518\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/2017\/06\/23\/2%d0%b627%d0%bb-2z27l-dht-preamp\/2j27l-thd-vo-5vrms\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/06\/2J27L-THD-Vo-5Vrms.png?fit=1239%2C379&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"1239,379\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"2J27L THD Vo 5Vrms\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"&lt;p&gt;2\u041627\u041b \/ 2Z27L THD @ 5Vrms output&lt;\/p&gt;\n\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/06\/2J27L-THD-Vo-5Vrms.png?fit=840%2C257&amp;ssl=1\" class=\"size-large wp-image-6518\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/06\/2J27L-THD-Vo-5Vrms-1024x313.png?resize=525%2C160\" alt=\"\" width=\"525\" height=\"160\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/06\/2J27L-THD-Vo-5Vrms.png?resize=1024%2C313&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/06\/2J27L-THD-Vo-5Vrms.png?resize=300%2C92&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/06\/2J27L-THD-Vo-5Vrms.png?resize=768%2C235&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/06\/2J27L-THD-Vo-5Vrms.png?w=1239&amp;ssl=1 1239w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 525px) 85vw, 525px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-6518\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">2\u041627\u041b \/ 2Z27L THD @ 5Vrms output<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<figure id=\"attachment_6519\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-6519\" style=\"width: 525px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/06\/2J27L-THD-Vo10Vrms.png\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"6519\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/2017\/06\/23\/2%d0%b627%d0%bb-2z27l-dht-preamp\/2j27l-thd-vo10vrms\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/06\/2J27L-THD-Vo10Vrms.png?fit=1235%2C379&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"1235,379\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"2J27L THD Vo10Vrms\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"&lt;p&gt;2\u041627\u041b \/ 2Z27L THD @ 10Vrms output&lt;\/p&gt;\n\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/06\/2J27L-THD-Vo10Vrms.png?fit=840%2C258&amp;ssl=1\" class=\"size-large wp-image-6519\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/06\/2J27L-THD-Vo10Vrms-1024x314.png?resize=525%2C161\" alt=\"\" width=\"525\" height=\"161\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/06\/2J27L-THD-Vo10Vrms.png?resize=1024%2C314&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/06\/2J27L-THD-Vo10Vrms.png?resize=300%2C92&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/06\/2J27L-THD-Vo10Vrms.png?resize=768%2C236&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/06\/2J27L-THD-Vo10Vrms.png?w=1235&amp;ssl=1 1235w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 525px) 85vw, 525px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-6519\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">2\u041627\u041b \/ 2Z27L THD @ 10Vrms output<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>Distortion is mainly H2 and below 0.03% for a 10Vrms output. This is very nice.<\/p>\n<p>When you tap hard the valve you get some microphonic noise at about 2.5kHz. Surprisingly, when I built it on my Mule preamp, no noise is picked up! It&#8217;s extremely quite for a 24dB DHT stage! Nice discovery.<\/p>\n<p>The frequency response is good, see below:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/06\/2J27L-preamp-FR-test-01.png\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"6520\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/2017\/06\/23\/2%d0%b627%d0%bb-2z27l-dht-preamp\/2j27l-preamp-fr-test-01\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/06\/2J27L-preamp-FR-test-01.png?fit=1059%2C641&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"1059,641\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"2J27L preamp FR test 01\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/06\/2J27L-preamp-FR-test-01.png?fit=840%2C509&amp;ssl=1\" class=\"size-large wp-image-6520 aligncenter\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/06\/2J27L-preamp-FR-test-01-1024x620.png?resize=525%2C318\" alt=\"\" width=\"525\" height=\"318\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/06\/2J27L-preamp-FR-test-01.png?resize=1024%2C620&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/06\/2J27L-preamp-FR-test-01.png?resize=300%2C182&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/06\/2J27L-preamp-FR-test-01.png?resize=768%2C465&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/06\/2J27L-preamp-FR-test-01.png?w=1059&amp;ssl=1 1059w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 525px) 85vw, 525px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Flat from 5Hz to 170kHz (-3dB points). Expect worse response when fully loaded. The only disadvantage of this valve is the 4mA maximum current. If you need, you will have to add a FET follower at the output to drive more demanding capacitive loads.&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h2>How does it sound?<\/h2>\n<p>I will have to get back to this a couple of weeks later when I manage to spend some proper time to listen to the stage. The initial impressions are (after listening<a href=\"https:\/\/www.discogs.com\/Freddie-Hubbard-Open-Sesame\/master\/177623\"> Freddie Hubbard&#8217;s Open Sesame <\/a>record for some time:<\/p>\n<ol>\n<li>Treble is very clear and sharp<\/li>\n<li>Tone is very detailed and clear &#8211; I like this valve<\/li>\n<li>Bass not as powerful as a VT-25\/10Y, well what can you expect with only 4mA through the BSH111BK FET \ud83d\ude42<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<p>What a great valve&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>Will report back in some weeks.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Back in 2012 I did some experiments with this Russian valve. &nbsp;The&nbsp;2\u041627\u041b \/ 2Z27L is a fantastic valve. I discovered that if I run it hot, it&#8217;s extremely linear and non-microphonic. Bingo! With its highish&nbsp;\u03bc of about 16, it&#8217;s ideal as preamp stage or driver.&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":true,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2},"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false},"categories":[12,911,156,67],"tags":[1055,918,1032,1056,258,625,864,982,186,888,1057],"class_list":["post-6515","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-dht-valves","category-gyrator-pcb","category-pre-amplifier-valves","category-thd","tag-2j27l","tag-2p29l","tag-2p29l-preamp","tag-2z27k-preamp","tag-2z27l","tag-bartola","tag-bartola-gyrator","tag-bsh111bk","tag-dht-preamp","tag-gyrator-board","tag-russian-dht"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/p2r2tK-1H5","jetpack_likes_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/6515","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=6515"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/6515\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":6521,"href":"https:\/\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/6515\/revisions\/6521"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=6515"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=6515"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=6515"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}