{"id":5622,"date":"2016-06-12T20:22:09","date_gmt":"2016-06-12T19:22:09","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/?p=5622"},"modified":"2016-06-12T20:22:09","modified_gmt":"2016-06-12T19:22:09","slug":"2p29l-preamp-and-driver-for-4p1l-pse-amp","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/2016\/06\/12\/2p29l-preamp-and-driver-for-4p1l-pse-amp\/","title":{"rendered":"2P29L &#8211; Preamp and driver for 4P1L PSE Amp"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>A very interesting Russian directly-heated pentode related to 4P1L is the 2P29L. It has a similar mu (\u03bc=9), much higher anode resistance 2.8-3K\u03a9 and transconductance of 3mA\/V when triode-strapped. The filament requirements are much lower at 120mA. I picked one valve from my collection to submit it to the mercy of the curve tracer:<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_5623\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-5623\" style=\"width: 851px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/06\/2P29L-pentode-test.png\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"5623\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/2016\/06\/12\/2p29l-preamp-and-driver-for-4p1l-pse-amp\/2p29l-pentode-test\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/06\/2P29L-pentode-test.png?fit=851%2C406&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"851,406\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"2P29L pentode test\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"&lt;p&gt;2P29L test point (pentode)&lt;\/p&gt;\n\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/06\/2P29L-pentode-test.png?fit=840%2C401&amp;ssl=1\" class=\"size-full wp-image-5623\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/06\/2P29L-pentode-test.png?resize=840%2C401\" alt=\"2P29L test point (pentode)\" width=\"840\" height=\"401\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/06\/2P29L-pentode-test.png?w=851&amp;ssl=1 851w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/06\/2P29L-pentode-test.png?resize=300%2C143&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/06\/2P29L-pentode-test.png?resize=768%2C366&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/06\/2P29L-pentode-test.png?resize=500%2C239&amp;ssl=1 500w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 709px) 85vw, (max-width: 909px) 67vw, (max-width: 1362px) 62vw, 840px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-5623\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">2P29L test point (pentode)<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>The triode curves are really nice:<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_5624\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-5624\" style=\"width: 584px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/06\/2P29L-triode-model.png\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"5624\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/2016\/06\/12\/2p29l-preamp-and-driver-for-4p1l-pse-amp\/2p29l-triode-model\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/06\/2P29L-triode-model.png?fit=1273%2C649&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"1273,649\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"2P29L triode model\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"&lt;p&gt;2P29L triode curves and model&lt;\/p&gt;\n\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/06\/2P29L-triode-model.png?fit=840%2C428&amp;ssl=1\" class=\"size-large wp-image-5624\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/06\/2P29L-triode-model-1024x522.png?resize=584%2C298\" alt=\"2P29L triode curves and model\" width=\"584\" height=\"298\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/06\/2P29L-triode-model.png?resize=1024%2C522&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/06\/2P29L-triode-model.png?resize=300%2C153&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/06\/2P29L-triode-model.png?resize=768%2C392&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/06\/2P29L-triode-model.png?resize=500%2C255&amp;ssl=1 500w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/06\/2P29L-triode-model.png?w=1273&amp;ssl=1 1273w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 584px) 85vw, 584px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-5624\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">2P29L triode curves and model<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>This valve is as linear as the 4P1L (hooray). As a preamp it can be easily implemented like the 4P1L Gen2 preamp using a <a href=\"http:\/\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/for-sale\/gyrator-pcb\/\">gyrator PCB<\/a> which simplifies the building process:<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_5625\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-5625\" style=\"width: 952px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/06\/2P29L-Preamp.png\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"5625\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/2016\/06\/12\/2p29l-preamp-and-driver-for-4p1l-pse-amp\/2p29l-preamp\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/06\/2P29L-Preamp.png?fit=952%2C750&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"952,750\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"2P29L Preamp\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"&lt;p&gt;2P29L preamp&lt;\/p&gt;\n\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/06\/2P29L-Preamp.png?fit=840%2C662&amp;ssl=1\" class=\"size-full wp-image-5625\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/06\/2P29L-Preamp.png?resize=840%2C662\" alt=\"2P29L preamp \" width=\"840\" height=\"662\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/06\/2P29L-Preamp.png?w=952&amp;ssl=1 952w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/06\/2P29L-Preamp.png?resize=300%2C236&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/06\/2P29L-Preamp.png?resize=768%2C605&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/06\/2P29L-Preamp.png?resize=381%2C300&amp;ssl=1 381w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 709px) 85vw, (max-width: 909px) 67vw, (max-width: 1362px) 62vw, 840px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-5625\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">2P29L preamp<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>Running it at 15mA and slightly above the recommended 160V achieve its lowest distortion.<\/p>\n<p>We could also use this valve as a driver for a 4P1L preamp, which comes very handy for filament bias:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/06\/2P29L-4P1L-PSE-Amp.png\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"5626\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/2016\/06\/12\/2p29l-preamp-and-driver-for-4p1l-pse-amp\/2p29l-4p1l-pse-amp\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/06\/2P29L-4P1L-PSE-Amp.png?fit=1271%2C883&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"1271,883\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"2P29L-4P1L PSE Amp\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/06\/2P29L-4P1L-PSE-Amp.png?fit=840%2C583&amp;ssl=1\" class=\"alignleft size-large wp-image-5626\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/06\/2P29L-4P1L-PSE-Amp-1024x711.png?resize=584%2C405\" alt=\"2P29L-4P1L PSE Amp\" width=\"584\" height=\"405\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/06\/2P29L-4P1L-PSE-Amp.png?resize=1024%2C711&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/06\/2P29L-4P1L-PSE-Amp.png?resize=300%2C208&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/06\/2P29L-4P1L-PSE-Amp.png?resize=768%2C534&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/06\/2P29L-4P1L-PSE-Amp.png?resize=432%2C300&amp;ssl=1 432w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/06\/2P29L-4P1L-PSE-Amp.png?w=1271&amp;ssl=1 1271w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 584px) 85vw, 584px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>A very interesting Russian directly-heated pentode related to 4P1L is the 2P29L. It has a similar mu (\u03bc=9), much higher anode resistance 2.8-3K\u03a9 and transconductance of 3mA\/V when triode-strapped. The filament requirements are much lower at 120mA. I picked one valve from my collection to submit it to the mercy of the curve tracer: The &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/2016\/06\/12\/2p29l-preamp-and-driver-for-4p1l-pse-amp\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;2P29L &#8211; Preamp and driver for 4P1L PSE Amp&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":true,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2},"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false},"categories":[835,156,158,67],"tags":[918,919,782,216,6,47,44,875],"class_list":["post-5622","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-4p1l-pse-amp","category-pre-amplifier-valves","category-se-designs","category-thd","tag-2p29l","tag-2p29l-triode-strapped","tag-4p1l","tag-4p1l-pse","tag-dht","tag-dht-preamplifier","tag-gyrator","tag-gyrator-pcb"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/p2r2tK-1sG","jetpack_likes_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/5622","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=5622"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/5622\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":5627,"href":"https:\/\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/5622\/revisions\/5627"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=5622"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=5622"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=5622"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}