{"id":254,"date":"2012-06-16T09:39:35","date_gmt":"2012-06-16T09:39:35","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/?p=254"},"modified":"2012-06-17T08:53:01","modified_gmt":"2012-06-17T08:53:01","slug":"12p17l-thd-analysis","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/2012\/06\/16\/12p17l-thd-analysis\/","title":{"rendered":"12P17L THD analysis"},"content":{"rendered":"<h1>THD analysis for 12P17L in triode-mode (left-handed)<\/h1>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/06\/12P17L-thd1.jpg\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"255\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/2012\/06\/16\/12p17l-thd-analysis\/12p17l-thd1\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/06\/12P17L-thd1.jpg?fit=1243%2C772&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"1243,772\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"12P17L thd1\" data-image-description=\"&lt;p&gt;THD @ 25.7mA&lt;\/p&gt;\n\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/06\/12P17L-thd1.jpg?fit=840%2C521&amp;ssl=1\" class=\"alignleft size-large wp-image-255\" title=\"12P17L thd1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/06\/12P17L-thd1-1024x635.jpg?resize=584%2C362\" alt=\"\" width=\"584\" height=\"362\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/06\/12P17L-thd1.jpg?resize=1024%2C635&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/06\/12P17L-thd1.jpg?resize=300%2C186&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/06\/12P17L-thd1.jpg?resize=483%2C300&amp;ssl=1 483w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/06\/12P17L-thd1.jpg?w=1243&amp;ssl=1 1243w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 584px) 85vw, 584px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Looking at the THD for the 12P17L in triode mode (left-handed) using a CCS load and driving the input with the TEST SET oscillator to achieve the output at 10Vrms (+22.22dBu) to look at valve&#8217;s distortion in particular. \u00a0 This valve is more linear at lower currents (Ia=25mA) rather than an operating point to\u00a0maximise\u00a0anode power (e.g. Ia=50mA) as would be in an output stage:<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_256\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-256\" style=\"width: 584px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/06\/12P17L-thd2.jpg\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"256\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/2012\/06\/16\/12p17l-thd-analysis\/12p17l-thd2\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/06\/12P17L-thd2.jpg?fit=1243%2C772&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"1243,772\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"12P17L thd2\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"&lt;p&gt;THD @ Ia=50mA&lt;\/p&gt;\n\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/06\/12P17L-thd2.jpg?fit=840%2C521&amp;ssl=1\" class=\"size-large wp-image-256\" title=\"12P17L thd2\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/06\/12P17L-thd2-1024x635.jpg?resize=584%2C362\" alt=\"\" width=\"584\" height=\"362\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/06\/12P17L-thd2.jpg?resize=1024%2C635&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/06\/12P17L-thd2.jpg?resize=300%2C186&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/06\/12P17L-thd2.jpg?resize=483%2C300&amp;ssl=1 483w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/06\/12P17L-thd2.jpg?w=1243&amp;ssl=1 1243w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 584px) 85vw, 584px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-256\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">THD @ Ia=50mA<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>Interesting to see that there is a point where there is a second harmonic cancellation and only H3 component is visible\u00a0achieving\u00a0very low THD (circa 1.3%):<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_257\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-257\" style=\"width: 584px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/06\/12P17L-thd3.jpg\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"257\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/2012\/06\/16\/12p17l-thd-analysis\/12p17l-thd3\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/06\/12P17L-thd3.jpg?fit=1243%2C772&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"1243,772\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"12P17L thd3\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"&lt;p&gt;Minimum distortion (H2 cancellation)&lt;\/p&gt;\n\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/06\/12P17L-thd3.jpg?fit=840%2C521&amp;ssl=1\" class=\"size-large wp-image-257\" title=\"12P17L thd3\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/06\/12P17L-thd3-1024x635.jpg?resize=584%2C362\" alt=\"\" width=\"584\" height=\"362\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/06\/12P17L-thd3.jpg?resize=1024%2C635&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/06\/12P17L-thd3.jpg?resize=300%2C186&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/06\/12P17L-thd3.jpg?resize=483%2C300&amp;ssl=1 483w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/06\/12P17L-thd3.jpg?w=1243&amp;ssl=1 1243w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 584px) 85vw, 584px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-257\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Minimum distortion (H2 cancellation)<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<ul>\n<li><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<figure id=\"attachment_258\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-258\" style=\"width: 769px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/06\/12P17L-thd-analysis.png\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"258\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/2012\/06\/16\/12p17l-thd-analysis\/12p17l-thd-analysis\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/06\/12P17L-thd-analysis.png?fit=769%2C419&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"769,419\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"12P17L thd analysis\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"&lt;p&gt;THD analysis&lt;\/p&gt;\n\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/06\/12P17L-thd-analysis.png?fit=769%2C419&amp;ssl=1\" class=\"size-full wp-image-258\" title=\"12P17L thd analysis\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/06\/12P17L-thd-analysis.png?resize=769%2C419\" alt=\"\" width=\"769\" height=\"419\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/06\/12P17L-thd-analysis.png?w=769&amp;ssl=1 769w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/06\/12P17L-thd-analysis.png?resize=300%2C163&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/06\/12P17L-thd-analysis.png?resize=500%2C272&amp;ssl=1 500w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 709px) 85vw, (max-width: 909px) 67vw, (max-width: 984px) 61vw, (max-width: 1362px) 45vw, 600px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-258\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">THD analysis<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>A compromise point to obtain maximum output power whilst minimising distortion was found to be:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Ia=35mA<\/li>\n<li>Vg=-15.2V<\/li>\n<li>Va=241V<\/li>\n<li>THD=0.13%<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>This puts the valve under 8.4W anode dissipation. Looking at the specs you can see that anode dissipation is 7.5W and g2\u00a0dissipation\u00a0is 2W.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_289\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-289\" style=\"width: 584px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/06\/12P17L-3.jpg\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"289\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/2012\/06\/16\/12p17l-thd-analysis\/12p17l-3\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/06\/12P17L-3.jpg?fit=1243%2C772&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"1243,772\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"12P17L 3\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"&lt;p&gt;12P17L THD at maximum output power&lt;\/p&gt;\n\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/06\/12P17L-3.jpg?fit=840%2C521&amp;ssl=1\" class=\"size-large wp-image-289\" title=\"12P17L 3\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/06\/12P17L-3-1024x635.jpg?resize=584%2C362\" alt=\"\" width=\"584\" height=\"362\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/06\/12P17L-3.jpg?resize=1024%2C635&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/06\/12P17L-3.jpg?resize=300%2C186&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/06\/12P17L-3.jpg?resize=483%2C300&amp;ssl=1 483w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/06\/12P17L-3.jpg?w=1243&amp;ssl=1 1243w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 584px) 85vw, 584px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-289\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">12P17L THD at maximum output power<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>I&#8217;d rather operate this valve at a lower dissipation point.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>THD analysis for 12P17L in triode-mode (left-handed) Looking at the THD for the 12P17L in triode mode (left-handed) using a CCS load and driving the input with the TEST SET oscillator to achieve the output at 10Vrms (+22.22dBu) to look at valve&#8217;s distortion in particular. \u00a0 This valve is more linear at lower currents (Ia=25mA) &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/2012\/06\/16\/12p17l-thd-analysis\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;12P17L THD analysis&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":false,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[67,38],"tags":[79,80,784,39],"class_list":["post-254","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-thd","category-valve-tester","tag-12p17l","tag-12p17l-triode-mode","tag-thd","tag-valve-tester-2"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/p2r2tK-46","jetpack_likes_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/254","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=254"}],"version-history":[{"count":3,"href":"https:\/\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/254\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":288,"href":"https:\/\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/254\/revisions\/288"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=254"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=254"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=254"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}