{"id":2002,"date":"2013-10-06T10:03:37","date_gmt":"2013-10-06T09:03:37","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/?p=2002"},"modified":"2013-10-06T10:03:37","modified_gmt":"2013-10-06T09:03:37","slug":"upgrading-the-dht-filament-regulators","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/2013\/10\/06\/upgrading-the-dht-filament-regulators\/","title":{"rendered":"Upgrading the DHT filament regulators"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I upgraded the <a title=\"DHT filament regulators\" href=\"http:\/\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/for-sale\/dht-filament-regulators\/\">DHT filament regulators to version 4.<\/a> Rod has released a new kit which introduces temperature compensation for high current filaments. This is a key feature in my <a title=\"4-65a SE Amp: testing it finally!\" href=\"http:\/\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/2013\/08\/11\/4-65a-se-amp-testing-it-finally\/\">4-65a\u00a0design<\/a> and I shall explain why:<\/p>\n<p><!--more-->The 46 drivers is working on filament bias. The whole amplifier as you know gets very warm. When temperature rises the regulator current sags a bit. This is mainly due to the CCS MOSFET drain current variation due to impact on VGS on temperature. If the filament current drops from 1.75A by 100mA this will be changing the bias point by 100mA*10\u03a9 = 1V. Thanks to the anode gyrator load and its FET which will be maintaining the anode and mu output voltage to the expected level. Therefore the impact is on the anode current as we are varying Vgk by 1V then the anode current will change and anode voltage as well, but not the mu output which is fixed. Remember there is a mu resistor between the FET source and the anode. If the current changes then the anode voltage will change as well. The conclusion is that the driver is\u00a0decently\u00a0stable thanks to the gyrator voltage that is fixed (providing the voltage reference doesn&#8217;t drift with temperature as we will see later).<\/p>\n<p>However, the output stage bias is dependent on the 4-65a filament current somehow. If the 3.5A regulator current sags then the Vgk will change with this. The grid voltage is set by the 46 gyrator load whilst the 4-65a filament current drops increasing the Vgk voltage (i.e. making it more negative). Therefore the anode current of the output stage drops slightly after 1-2 hours of playing. I was using plastic TO220 components which are not appropriate for these regulators if you are using +3A currents. You either need bigger heatsinks or use the right metal case TO220 devices.<\/p>\n<p>Only the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/2013\/08\/16\/adjusting-the-shunt-regulator\/\">gyrator FET drift with temperature<\/a> will impact the output voltage. From the IXYS curves for the 01N100D we can see that Vgs changes from -1.9V to -2.2V from 25C to 125C for a Id of around 25mA. This change of about 0.3V is also bringing slightly down the anode current of the output stage. Only solution here is a pretty big heat-sink for the gyrator to keep it cool enough. The bigger impact is on the gyrator CCS voltage reference. This is the LND150. and here is the temperature impact from the datasheet:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/10\/Screen-shot-2013-10-06-at-09.53.39.png\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"2004\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/2013\/10\/06\/upgrading-the-dht-filament-regulators\/screen-shot-2013-10-06-at-09-53-39\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/10\/Screen-shot-2013-10-06-at-09.53.39.png?fit=777%2C647&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"777,647\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-title=\"Screen shot 2013-10-06 at 09.53.39\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/10\/Screen-shot-2013-10-06-at-09.53.39.png?fit=777%2C647&amp;ssl=1\" class=\"alignleft size-full wp-image-2004\" alt=\"Screen shot 2013-10-06 at 09.53.39\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/10\/Screen-shot-2013-10-06-at-09.53.39.png?resize=777%2C647\" width=\"777\" height=\"647\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/10\/Screen-shot-2013-10-06-at-09.53.39.png?w=777&amp;ssl=1 777w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/10\/Screen-shot-2013-10-06-at-09.53.39.png?resize=300%2C249&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/10\/Screen-shot-2013-10-06-at-09.53.39.png?resize=360%2C300&amp;ssl=1 360w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 709px) 85vw, (max-width: 909px) 67vw, (max-width: 984px) 61vw, (max-width: 1362px) 45vw, 600px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Well, simulating my CCS voltage reference in SPICE I found to get about 1V drift in 10C (from 20C to 30C). I could look at reducing the CCS current (down to 500uA) to minimise impact on Id versus temperature. This will be next step<\/p>\n<p>Overall the Rod Coleman Regulators V4 are fantastic. Stability brought to the amp and sound impact is impressive. The tail CCS of the regulator has been optimised by Rod to perform really well in this scenario. I could notice a bit more clarity in the sound when testing the amp\u00a0yesterday. A big step-up highly recommended!<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I upgraded the DHT filament regulators to version 4. Rod has released a new kit which introduces temperature compensation for high current filaments. This is a key feature in my 4-65a\u00a0design and I shall explain why:<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_feature_clip_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":true,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2},"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false},"categories":[5],"tags":[278,780,105,273,445,279,130,78],"class_list":["post-2002","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-valves","tag-01n100d-gyrator","tag-4-65a","tag-4-65a-dht","tag-4-65a-se","tag-dht-filament-regulator","tag-lnd150-ccs","tag-mosfet-gyrator","tag-rod-coleman-regulator"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/p2r2tK-wi","jetpack_likes_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2002","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=2002"}],"version-history":[{"count":3,"href":"https:\/\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2002\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":2006,"href":"https:\/\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2002\/revisions\/2006"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=2002"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=2002"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=2002"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}