{"id":1228,"date":"2013-02-18T19:40:41","date_gmt":"2013-02-18T19:40:41","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/?p=1228"},"modified":"2013-02-18T19:40:41","modified_gmt":"2013-02-18T19:40:41","slug":"6e5p6%d1%8d5%d0%bf-and-6e6p-e6%d1%8d6%d0%bf-e-in-triode-mode","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/2013\/02\/18\/6e5p6%d1%8d5%d0%bf-and-6e6p-e6%d1%8d6%d0%bf-e-in-triode-mode\/","title":{"rendered":"6E5P\/6\u042d5\u041f and 6E6P-E\/6\u042d6\u041f-E in triode mode"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>One of the first valves<a title=\"6e5p triode-strapped\" href=\"http:\/\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/2012\/05\/27\/6e5p-triode-strapped\/\"> I traced with my curve tracer<\/a> was the\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.mif.pg.gda.pl\/homepages\/frank\/sheets\/113\/6\/6e5P.pdf\">6E5P\/6\u042d5\u041f<\/a>. It has a very good reputation when triode-strapped. I did many tests and found this one being a superb driver given is one of the most linear valves out there. Many use them as a 300B driver. I will probably implement Rod Coleman&#8217;s shunt cascode topology in my 45 SE or in a 6C4C\/4P1L PSE design.<\/p>\n<p>Over the weekend I traced many valves as managed to recalibrate the oscilloscope and tracer and wanted to play with some samples I had around.<\/p>\n<p>Here is the\u00a06E5P\/6\u042d5\u041f in triode mode:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/02\/65ep-triode-SMALL.jpg\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"1229\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/2013\/02\/18\/6e5p6%d1%8d5%d0%bf-and-6e6p-e6%d1%8d6%d0%bf-e-in-triode-mode\/65ep-triode-small\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/02\/65ep-triode-SMALL.jpg?fit=1000%2C810&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"1000,810\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;2.8&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;Canon PowerShot G10&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;1361018596&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;6.1&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;100&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0.25&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"65ep triode SMALL\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/02\/65ep-triode-SMALL.jpg?fit=840%2C680&amp;ssl=1\" class=\"alignleft size-full wp-image-1229\" alt=\"65ep triode SMALL\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/02\/65ep-triode-SMALL.jpg?resize=840%2C680\" width=\"840\" height=\"680\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/02\/65ep-triode-SMALL.jpg?w=1000&amp;ssl=1 1000w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/02\/65ep-triode-SMALL.jpg?resize=300%2C243&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/02\/65ep-triode-SMALL.jpg?resize=370%2C300&amp;ssl=1 370w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 709px) 85vw, (max-width: 909px) 67vw, (max-width: 1362px) 62vw, 840px\" \/><\/a>And here are the updated SPICE model parameters:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/02\/6e5p-triode-model.png\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"1230\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/2013\/02\/18\/6e5p6%d1%8d5%d0%bf-and-6e6p-e6%d1%8d6%d0%bf-e-in-triode-mode\/6e5p-triode-model-2\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/02\/6e5p-triode-model.png?fit=1500%2C830&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"1500,830\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"6e5p triode model\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/02\/6e5p-triode-model.png?fit=840%2C464&amp;ssl=1\" class=\"alignleft size-full wp-image-1230\" alt=\"6e5p triode model\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/02\/6e5p-triode-model.png?resize=840%2C465\" width=\"840\" height=\"465\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/02\/6e5p-triode-model.png?w=1500&amp;ssl=1 1500w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/02\/6e5p-triode-model.png?resize=300%2C166&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/02\/6e5p-triode-model.png?resize=1024%2C566&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/02\/6e5p-triode-model.png?resize=500%2C276&amp;ssl=1 500w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 709px) 85vw, (max-width: 909px) 67vw, (max-width: 1362px) 62vw, 840px\" \/><\/a>Now, let&#8217;s have a look at it&#8217;s close brother the\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.mif.pg.gda.pl\/homepages\/frank\/sheets\/113\/6\/6e6PE.pdf\">6E6P-E\/6\u042d6\u041f-E<\/a> in triode mode. It has a long life (10,000 hours against only 500hours):<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/02\/6e6p-e-triode-SMALL.jpg\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"1231\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/2013\/02\/18\/6e5p6%d1%8d5%d0%bf-and-6e6p-e6%d1%8d6%d0%bf-e-in-triode-mode\/6e6p-e-triode-small\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/02\/6e6p-e-triode-SMALL.jpg?fit=1000%2C802&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"1000,802\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;2.8&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;Canon PowerShot G10&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;1361019055&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;6.1&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;100&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0.25&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"6e6p-e triode SMALL\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/02\/6e6p-e-triode-SMALL.jpg?fit=840%2C674&amp;ssl=1\" class=\"alignleft size-full wp-image-1231\" alt=\"6e6p-e triode SMALL\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/02\/6e6p-e-triode-SMALL.jpg?resize=840%2C674\" width=\"840\" height=\"674\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/02\/6e6p-e-triode-SMALL.jpg?w=1000&amp;ssl=1 1000w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/02\/6e6p-e-triode-SMALL.jpg?resize=300%2C240&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/02\/6e6p-e-triode-SMALL.jpg?resize=374%2C300&amp;ssl=1 374w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 709px) 85vw, (max-width: 909px) 67vw, (max-width: 1362px) 62vw, 840px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/02\/6e6p-e-triode-model.png\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"1232\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/2013\/02\/18\/6e5p6%d1%8d5%d0%bf-and-6e6p-e6%d1%8d6%d0%bf-e-in-triode-mode\/6e6p-e-triode-model\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/02\/6e6p-e-triode-model.png?fit=1400%2C800&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"1400,800\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"6e6p-e triode model\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/02\/6e6p-e-triode-model.png?fit=840%2C480&amp;ssl=1\" class=\"alignleft size-full wp-image-1232\" alt=\"6e6p-e triode model\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/02\/6e6p-e-triode-model.png?resize=840%2C480\" width=\"840\" height=\"480\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/02\/6e6p-e-triode-model.png?w=1400&amp;ssl=1 1400w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/02\/6e6p-e-triode-model.png?resize=300%2C171&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/02\/6e6p-e-triode-model.png?resize=1024%2C585&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/02\/6e6p-e-triode-model.png?resize=500%2C285&amp;ssl=1 500w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 709px) 85vw, (max-width: 909px) 67vw, (max-width: 1362px) 62vw, 840px\" \/><\/a>Many praise the <a href=\"http:\/\/gstube.com\/data\/727\/\">6e6p-DR<\/a> tetrode over these two, I haven&#8217;t tried it yet myself but here are the minor differences between \u00a06E5P\/6\u042d5\u041f and 6E6P-E\/6\u042d6\u041f-E to highlight:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Both\u00a06E5P\/6\u042d5\u041f and 6E6P-E\/6\u042d6\u041f-E have very linear curves!<\/li>\n<li><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"line-height: 15px;\">6E5P\/6\u042d5\u041f: less anode resistance and higher transconductance compared to\u00a0\u00a06E6P-E\/6\u042d6\u041f-E which seems to have a tad more of gain<\/span><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>One of the first valves I traced with my curve tracer was the\u00a06E5P\/6\u042d5\u041f. It has a very good reputation when triode-strapped. I did many tests and found this one being a superb driver given is one of the most linear valves out there. Many use them as a 300B driver. I will probably implement Rod &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/2013\/02\/18\/6e5p6%d1%8d5%d0%bf-and-6e6p-e6%d1%8d6%d0%bf-e-in-triode-mode\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;6E5P\/6\u042d5\u041f and 6E6P-E\/6\u042d6\u041f-E in triode mode&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":true,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[24,5],"tags":[326,328,329,327,330],"class_list":["post-1228","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-valve-curve-tracer","category-valves","tag-6e5p-triode-curves","tag-6e6p-e","tag-6e6p-e-triode-curves","tag-327","tag-66-e"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/p2r2tK-jO","jetpack_likes_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1228","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1228"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1228\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":1233,"href":"https:\/\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1228\/revisions\/1233"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1228"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1228"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.bartola.co.uk\/valves\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1228"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}